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Post by niff on Feb 4, 2008 9:49:47 GMT -5
because 7 is an evil number, and so are 8 9 and 10, we're going with 6.
anyway.
1. Deus Ex 2. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 4. Max Payne 5. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 6. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
now - why?
Deus Ex - my favourite game of all time. i spent years on it, clocking it over and over again in different ways. from when i was 12 til i was 15 i was still playing it. i plan to pick it up again when i feel the urge. i have the CD.. somewhere. i've never played a game as much as i have Deus Ex.
OoT and MM - if you grew up like i did, there's no way in [CENSORED] these wouldn't be on your top 6. it was really hard ranking the games above eachother. i feel MM is a better game as in content and gameplay and features and whatnot, but the nostalgia i have for OoT is a completely different brand compared to that of MM. i love them both but OoT wins out for being the game to hook me into gaming. also, fun sidenote. my girlfriend's favourite game is OoT and she is the least likely person to ever game, ever. we're doing a runthrough during the next school holidays, just cause we can.
max payne series - PC action just really hasn't got any better than this i think. the combat system is marvelous (moreso in the second), the storylines are dark and disturbing in the first and then edgy and cool in the second, with amazing voice acting and unique graphic novels to depict the story. just amazing games overall. the first i found better than the second in every aspect except gameplay and graphics.. i loved the characters and the dialogue, the way max was constantly constipated in firefights, the general atmosphere.. brilliant, really.
vampire the masquerade - bloodlines: this game would have been damn near perfect. if it wasn't for the fact that it's the buggiest, most unoptimised game i've ever played in my entire life. there is not a machine this game will run efficiently on. it is simply terribly optimised as it used an old version of the source engine. but it didn't stop me playing this game over with every single character class, some more than once, for over 100 hours. it's basically like deus ex with vampires - it's equally intense, it draws you in, you feel the characters come to life with amazing voice acting and valve's brilliant face technology. everything about that game was perfect except for the damn bugs and coding. i strongly recommend it to anybody with a bit of patience and the time to download unofficial patches.
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Post by Notesurfer on Feb 4, 2008 13:01:18 GMT -5
I wrote down my 6 favorite for each system first, because I feel that some of these games definitely deserve a mention on any "best" list.
SNES: 1. Chrono Trigger 2. Secret of Mana 3. Super Mario World 4. E.V.O. - The Search for Eden 5. Donkey Kong Country 6. Robotrek
N64: 1. Perfect Dark/Goldeneye 2. Space Station Silicon Valley 3. SM64 4. OoT/MM 5. Pokemon Snap 6. Mario Party
GB/GBA/DS: 1. Pokemon RBY/Crystal/RSE/etc 2. Shining Soul II 3. Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town 4. Final Fantasy V Advance 5. Castlevania - Aria of Sorrow 6. Scurge: Hive
Honorable mention: Shadowrun for Genesis
And now, for the best 6 of all time:
1. Chrono Trigger 2. Space Station Silicon Valley 3. Starcraft 4. Pokemon RBY/RSE/DP/etc 5. OoT/MM 6. Perfect Dark
Chrono Trigger - duh. I won't say much about this one because you've all heard me go on about it way too much here. The game had killer graphics, a fantastic storyline, great characters, awesome sidequests, etc and so on. It hooked me from the moment Nadia slipped into the telepod and held me riveted through the process of leveling all my characters to ** three times. My favorite game ever, hands down.
Space Station Silicon Valley - total innovation. I don't know how many of you guys have played this game, but if you haven't . . . do it now. Uber innovative gameplay, and humorous mission briefings. Parts of the game were frustrating simply due to the curious 3-d N64 graphics, but as a whole the game was fantastic. I was so addicted to finding and defeating each and every animal to see what they could do (even the foxes with wheels - that was bloody difficult!).
Starcraft - best RTS ever. In the same way that CT ruined all the FF games for me, SC has spoiled me and kept me from enjoying many modern RTS games. Balanced, addictive, and oddly social when playing it with friends, SC is my only PC pick.
Pokemon - pure addiction. It's basically impossible to replicate the feel of the pokemon games, although many have tried. There's nothing quite like leveling and leveling your creatures to see what sort of crazy thing they might turn into. Learning the ins and outs of the pokemon system appealed to me as a kid because I was really into zoology and RPGs - here the two go hand in hand. Incidentally, out of all the pokemon games I mentioned on the list (there's a lot of them), my favorite is probably crystal. It wasn't ridiculously hard to level/evolve your pokemon, you could catch them all in one game, and it had Tyranitar. w00t!
OoT/MM - sorry Niff, I couldn't decide between the two of them. Like you said, OoT has a massive nostalgia factor for me, especially the biggoron's sword quest (don't ask) and the various temples. MM was great too, with some innovative gameplay and some improvements on OoT, but the main reason I remember it so well is because I used to play MM while listening to my (then) newest musical acquisition: Paul Simon's discography. Yes, I am a music nerd, but Paul Simon is one of my favorite songwriters of all time, and MM is permanently affixed to his legacy in my mind.
Perfect Dark - best console FPS ever. PD took the mistakes that GE made and threw them out the window, then took all the great ideas they had and improved on them. The result was pure FPS gameplay with innovative and balanced weaponry, interesting storyline and missions, and lots of fun unlockables all tied up with pretty graphics and a multiplayer system to die for. Also it was the first FPS I played that had bots in it.
Picking only the "best" games is probably the hardest thing I've ever tried to do. \-: It doesn't help that I have a tendency to think in absolutes - IMO a game is usually horrible, mediocre, or fantastic.
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Post by niff on Feb 4, 2008 18:27:13 GMT -5
i'm getting my 64 back soon. i think it finally blew up after 8 years though. i'll see. but i'm sooo gonna look for space station silicon valley.. it sounds interesting.
PD would be in my top 10 as it is a damn good game and honestly i still come back to it - one of the best FPSes ever. especially multiplayer. another one i'd say would be mystical ninja goemon. and, buck bumble. and turok 2. and holy [CENSORED], the N64 has a lot of good games.
also:
C, Eb and G walk into a bar. the bartender says "sorry, we don't serve minors".
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Post by Draxas on Feb 4, 2008 22:10:52 GMT -5
So hard to choose... I've been playing games since before some of you were even born. I'll try my best, though: 1. Super Metroid 2. Star Control 2 3. Perfect Dark 4. Chrono Trigger 5. Final Fantasy 6 & 4 6. Super Smash Bros. Melee Super Metroid: 2D adventure at its finest, and few (if any) 3D games have that same sense of exploration and immersion. I couldn't even tell you how many times I've been through the game over the years, finding new stuff every time, and yet I still haven't seen everything (primarily because I am loath to ruin the tiny fraction of the game I haven't figured out how to access by using a walkthrough). I've been known to occasionally hook up my old SNES, for the sole purpose of playing this game again. Starcon2: Greatest PC game ever. Free roaming, open-ended gameplay (well, maybe more "open-middled" anyway), memorable aliens, incredibly well written dialog, etc. etc. etc. I could go on all day about this game. I still find myself occasionally quoting various bits of dialog from the game, often to people who I'm sure have never had any exposure to it, just because I can (bonus points when they don't think I'm strange afterward). This is to say nothing of the best single-keyboard play this side of Worms. If you haven't played this game yet, why the hell not? It's free to download the remake for modern OSes, so there is no excuse whatsoever. Get it here: sc2.sourceforge.netPerfect Dark: Best FPS ever (at least that I've played, anyway). There was a time not long ago, where I could have said that it did things that no other game has managed to pull off since, but I don't know if that's still true anymore. Regardless, it's spoiled me to the point where I can barely tolerate very many FPS games anymore, because they feel inferior and there shouldn't be any excuse for that. But then again, considering the board theme, I'm probably preaching to the choir on this one. Chrono Trigger: Greatest RPG ever. The sad fact that I'm still waiting for a true sequel (no, the anal rape of the CT universe called Chrono Cross does not count in my book. A decent game in its own right, but it's treatment of its predecessor made me die a little inside) implies that Squeenix apparently disagrees. Still, a perfect balance of story, characterization, and gameplay means that few, if any, can stack up to it even today. Final Fantasy 6 & 4: So hard to decide which I like better, so threw them both on here since the concept is similar. Worthy contenders to CT's title, from back in the olden days when the folks at Square were more interested in making great RPGs, rather than 60 hours of eye candy tied together by a travesty of a story. Both have characters that you actually care about. How these missed out on direct sequels, but the loathsome FFX-2 saw the light of day baffles me. Super Smash Bros. Melee: The game that singlehandedly sold me a Gamecube. How you can play this game and not like it mystifies me. One on one fighter crossed with party game, and manages to best 99% of contenders from both genres at their own game. I can only hope that Brawl is as good as it looks. Honorable mentions are numerous, but there are so many great games that just fell short. Among them: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow, and Portrait of Ruin Katamari Damacy & We Love Katamari Metroid Prime, Prime 3, and Zero Mission TimeSplitters 2 and 3 Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario World Final Fantasy Tactics Doom 2 The Secret of Monkey Island Streets of Rage 2 Phantasy Star 4 Gunstar Heroes All those Pokemon games, but especially GS, RS, and Colosseum (for daring to be different)
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Post by niff on Feb 4, 2008 23:37:11 GMT -5
i never got into SC2 and i still wonder what's really wrong with me. i haven't had the time and whatnot.
know what? i'm gonna download it. right the [CENSORED] now. just watch me.
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Post by Draxas on Feb 5, 2008 3:08:49 GMT -5
Do it. You know you want to.
You can. You should. You must. YOU WILL.
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Post by Notesurfer on Feb 5, 2008 22:17:38 GMT -5
SC2 was fantastic, although I didn't have the patience to finish playing it.
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Post by niff on Feb 5, 2008 22:29:37 GMT -5
the remix pack mirrors didn't download properly ooh well. time to play.
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Post by Draxas on Feb 6, 2008 0:41:52 GMT -5
That's odd. Still, the original music is awesome (even on a PC speaker!), so it's not too worrisome I guess.
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Post by niff on Feb 6, 2008 2:26:59 GMT -5
i downloaded 'em off the main site, world of difference i must say. love the hyperspace music. definitely a very unique game. i'm loving the voice acting, and the story's rather interesting. the whole thing seems to fit together very well. definitely a lack of combat so far though. i'm busy getting resources while adding onto my ship and whatnot. but why are all the best resources on the most ridiculously dangerous planets
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Post by Draxas on Feb 6, 2008 3:18:02 GMT -5
A molten surface (hotspots) and heavy tectonic activity (earthquakes) are the perfect catalysts for bringing valuable metal and mineral deposits to the surface. Unfortunately, they also make travel on said surface significantly more dangerous than on less profitable worlds. As for hostile biologicals, the more dangerous and aggressive, the more biodata they yield, and that is its own reward. Fortunately, if you search around, there's sure to be someone willing to fork over the technology to make lander travel far safer. The question is, of course, who, and what they'll want in exchange.
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Post by niff on Feb 6, 2008 3:23:55 GMT -5
i'm up for selling my body if it means getting what's on venus i tell you that
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Post by Draxas on Feb 6, 2008 3:28:02 GMT -5
Heh. Venus can be safely ignored for the duration of the game. By the time you get the ability to lightning-proof your landers, you should be able to find far more worthy worlds to mine.
Now if you want to see some really dangerous worlds to covet, check out practically any supergiant star. Don't even consider landing unless you have godlike reflexes or heat and quake resistant landers, though.
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Post by niff on Feb 6, 2008 4:24:04 GMT -5
i landed on the planet orbiting sirius and got destroyed. heh.
but i got a handful of stuff when i escaped with my second lander doohickey though. phew.
game is very very good so far. hopefully i don't get too destroyed though. i take it the idea is to just build up my fleet first off?
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Post by Notesurfer on Feb 6, 2008 12:54:20 GMT -5
All this discussion is making me want to pick the game back up, but I know if I do I won't be getting anything else done for quite a while. >_<
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