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Post by Draxas on Aug 1, 2008 0:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by N3B on Aug 1, 2008 17:26:21 GMT -5
I personally think that video games have the potential to be art, but most don't strive to be. BUT I'll even go so far as to say this is the same as with movies. In both cases, the ones that strive to be artistic (in various ways) are typically few and far between, buried amongst action/thrillers ment solely to entertain and thus make money.
The way Ebert uses the term "worthy" in saying that VGs are inherently inferior to cinema is not something I agree with -- certainly they're in different categories, but one can't be simply more sophisticated than or superior to the other. Honestly I think anyone who thinks that as an entire industry, VGs are art, is just trying to justify what can often be considered a frivolous waste of time.
The article brings up the matter of VGs being a detractment from time which could be used to become more cultured -- how many would argue that VGs are cultural? And how (practically speaking) cultural are movies? I'd say that most aren't -- perhaps only a few a year are truly artistic and even fewer could be considered cultural (ie, it has to be considered a classic in some way or another to be considered cultural in my opinion).
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Post by Altl on Aug 3, 2008 1:35:09 GMT -5
I read that article about Ebert's take on video games as art a while ago and I'm too lazy to reread it (at least right now).
The idea of video games as art is an interesting one as it makes me think of the common art class question, "What is art?" But I'd rather not address that question as it makes my head hurt. So, lets go with the known. Literature is considered art. Most video games incorporate literature in some way or another; just look at the plots of your favorite RPGs and FPS, Half-life, Chrono Trigger, the Legend of Zelda, they all incorporate elements of literature to tell their story. So, surely that element of the game is art. Then there is of course the animation of video games. Long gone is the era in which animation isn't considered art, even the most unrefined are considered art, so that chalk another element of video games up to art. Next, you have of course the coding involved which is just math mostly. To some its questionable to say that Math is art, but most people involved with it would consider the nature of the proofs and the way it all works together art. Personally I'd say Math is art, so there's another aspect to consider them art. I'd say all the parts of video games can be linked to art, and since the property extends to the whole I'd say video games are art.
In relation to the article after reading Nick's post, to say video games are in anyway detached from the times in which they are made is a fallacy. Look at Perfect Dark, then look at Night Fire, and then at Halo. Can you tell when they were made? Hell yeah you can, that's because each of those games is representative of the time period they're from via the limitations that were imposed on them from the technology available at the time.
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Post by Ranger on Aug 20, 2008 12:50:13 GMT -5
I've always found any media medium to be a form of art albeit mostly poor on a general scale. I agree that only a few truly artistic games or movies come out every year. The majority the public at large will Never see because its at film festivals or indie game conferences. The concept of mixing and matching interactive entertainment and artistic views has always been at the heart of both industries even after they decided it was mostly about the money.
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